Re: [khabor.com] The Hilarious NRB Conf. At Dhaka Sheraton - Attention S. Turnman...

Dear Naima Apa,

Greetings!

I must recognize the points you raised.

If we want a fruitful NRB conference,then it will require

a systematic and fruitful preperation in advance.

From the organizer,there a gap for the required ground work

but as 1st conference,considering all,we can allow it a lilltle

bit success.

Warm Regards,

Shishir Shil

Executive Director

People's Empowerment Trust(PET) &

Secretary,All-Party Parliamentary Group(APPG)

10/22 Iqbal Road,Mohammadpur,Dhaka-1207,Bangladesh

Tel:+880-2-9112903

Fax:+880-2-9130316

www.petbd.org

Quoting naima CBd <naima.changebangladesh@gmail.com>:

> Hi,
>
> astute points made. Sometimes you may recognize that this situation of
> probashi preaching is a way to show our clout as an organized entity.
> To show up and tell everyone that we are indeed a constituency to
> rekon with. BTW the conference may be ineffective to get anything REal
> done but its an advertising tool for us to demonstrate that we send an
> awful lot of money back to Bangladesh but can't even vote or have
> disfunctional embassies. These concerns may seem insignificant
> compared to the priorities of inside Bangladesh ,nevertheless, you
> will require such robust services once you travel outside our borders.
> There is a function being srved here, even though not obvious to the
> perspective of you from Chittagong. having said that yes, there were
> nonsensical gibberish said at the conference. We take what we can get
> at this point.
>
> My two paisas,
>
> naima
>
> On Jan 9, 2008 1:45 AM, S Turkman <turkman@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sir, all my best wishes for taking promise to take care of Mollaa insugency
>> in Bangladesh but let me inform you they openly say they are not like
>> Taliban but this is their secret Agenda. They follow the tactics of
>> 'Ikhwaan' of Egypt, who you find in Western Attire but their workers remain
>> busy assassinating people, who oppose them in Egyptian Population. They even
>> condemn such killings and killings of girls killed for not wearing 'Hijaab'
>> in the press though their own members do that kind of stuff.
>>
>> I support Musharraf because there's no other viable choice and you would
>> have loved him yourself ...
>> *  if Bangladesh Per Capital Income was $ 540 in 1999 and now it was $ 843.
>> *  If Exports were $ 7 billion and now they were $ 14 billion.
>> *  If he had built over 117 Bridges, By Passes and Tunnels.
>> *  If he had made Stock Market Index rise 400 % since he took over.
>> *  If even your guy, who comes to your door selling Vegetables had a Mobile
>> Phone.
>>
>> MQM has been the only Non JaagirDaar Political Party of Asia for last two
>> decades. Following are facts about MQM:
>>
>> 1. It made Mohajirs stop voting for JmaaTay Islami because its elected
>> members in Assembly and Parliament had done nothing to abolish
>> discriminatory laws of Pakistan against them.
>> 2. It refused to accpet Millionaires as its members because all they had
>> wanted was nomination of MQM to run for Parliament and Assembly.
>> 3. It always issued Tickets to run for Parliament and Assembly to its
>> ordinary educated workers, who proved to have leadership qualities without
>> prejudice of race, religion, money background or ethnic backgroud. For
>> Example: Farooq Sattar, a Bangla wearing a Beard became Mayor of Karachi on
>> MQM Ticket, then a Minister and than Chief Minister of Sindh.
>> 4. It has been named as a Treasonous Anti Islamic Terrorist Party because
>> when Punjabi Pakistan Army's Rangers and Police had started looting houses
>> of Mohajirs in Urban Sindh and raping their daughters the young Mohajirs
>> could not be stopped from start attacking Police and Army Rangers just like
>> MokTi Bhaayini of East Pakistanis. Would you have rather quietly taken rape
>> of your sisters or daughters lying-down, sir?
>> 5. Its the only party of Asian Countries that has largest number of
>> Volunteer force for Social Work.
>> 6. Its Volunteers can be seen directing traffic to reduce Traffic Jams in
>> all big cities of Pakistan.
>> 7. Its Volunteers help the Needy and Poor all over Pakistan without any
>> Ethnic Prejudice with the money donated by mostly Urdu Speaking People in
>> and outside Pakistan of whom some are Multi Millionaires or closer to be
>> Billionaires in Dollars.
>> 8. Its the only party of Asia that started Free Hospitals and Medical
>> Clinics all over Pakistan and even in USA for people of its country.
>> 9. Its the only party of Pakistan that had more Social Workers than even
>> Govt. Social Workers in the Earthquake-struck part of Pakistan.
>> 10. Its the party that had delivered Shiploads of aid for Earthquake Victims
>> to Pakistan by Sea.
>> 11. Since 2 Assemblymen had died in Earthquake victims of Earthquake had
>> elected 2 local ordinary but educated local people with leadership qualities
>> to replace them on MQM Ticket.
>> 12. Its larger party of Pakistan than all Religious Parties combined with
>> more than 460 candidates running on its ticket from all over Pakistan though
>> it had started as a very small ethnic party.
>>
>> Now tell me, which Political Party of Bangladesh has a record to match even
>> 1/4th qualities of MQM?
>> Which of Bangla Political Parties have half a million Volunteer Workers?
>> Which one of them has started Social Welfare Wing?
>> Which one of them has started free Charitable Hospitals?
>> Which one of them has free Medical Clinics in the country and abroad for
>> Bangla people?
>> Which one of them had more Social Workers than Govt. Social Workers for
>> victims of recent Cyclone?
>> Which one of them has supplied shipload of Humanitarian Aid for Cyclone
>> Victims?
>>
>> MQM doesn't believe in propaganda or expelling lies against it in Media,
>> Press or Internet. It just keeps doing good deeds and keeps winning more and
>> more seats in Assemblies and Parliament of Pakistan because it know, truth
>> prevails, not lies.
>>
>> Syed Aslam <Syed.Aslam3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Mr S. Turkman
>>
>> Your  comments are out of context.  It is very  clear that you are lecturing
>> like a Tabligi Jamat  without reading the actual article by Mr. S. Ahmed.
>> What's
>> your problem? Don't you understand plain English? Take your time, read it
>> again, and again and again .... Mr. S. Ahmed's views have nothing to do with
>> the things you are taliking about.....
>>
>> Don't mix up apples and oranges .... We Bangladeshis know how to combat
>> the Islamists and the Fakes like you who does not know the basics of
>> debate in a  civilized forum . . We have taught the Islamists a good lesson
>> once in 1971 and we will teach them another lesson once again ...and this
>> time we will kill the snake for good so that it can not rise again to spread
>> its venoms on our people.
>>
>> You have already exposed yourself as an apologist for Pak-President
>> Musarraff
>> and it's MQM supporter. Please don't try entertain us with your half-backed
>> egg plants.
>>
>> We, Bangladeshis know what to do. Obviously, you don't know much about the
>> NRB conference that was held in Dhaka last December ..... We have difference
>> in
>> openions .... but we always agree to disagree ....
>>
>> Mr. S. Ahmed is a great rational thinker. Don't try to demean him
>> through your innuendoes.......and slanders ....
>>
>> Solong  & Bye !
>>
>> Syed Aslam
>>
>>
>> On 1/8/08, S Turkman <turkman@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>> Shun path of West?
>> That's right, too many of us are not wearing Beards. Too many of us are
>> wearing Pants and getting English Style Haircuts. Look at necks of most of
>> us ...! Neck is fully exposed, no hair. Who says this is not path of the
>> West?
>> Almost everybody is using Tooth Brush instead of 'Miswaak' also. Not many
>> cover their heads. Too many of us know English instead of Arabic. We believe
>> in Western style Democracy, Freedom of Speech, Civil Rights, Human Rights
>> instead of believing in Caliphate System. We are not collecting Protection
>> Money or 'JiZiyah' Tax of Qoraan from our Non Moslims either. All this is
>> also Path of the West.
>>
>> We have to go back to 7th Century or at least Horse, Bull Cart and Kerosene
>> Lamp Days so our Mollaas can become our absolute Rulers and Islam's 2nd age
>> of Glory can start. ... Allaho Akbar ...!
>>
>>
>> Syed Aslam < Syed.Aslam3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 'Shun path of West, be proud Bangladeshis'- The Hilarious Conferenence of
>> The NRBs At Dhaka Sheraton Hotel
>>
>> Thursday January 03 2008 20:18:11 PM BDT
>> http://www.bangladesh-web.com/view.php?hidRecord=182282
>>
>>
>> By S. Ahmad, Bangladesh
>>
>> How much useful the recent all well (?) meant NRBs pompous meeting at posh
>> Sheraton hotel in Dhaka could be for Bangladesh that I do not know but I can
>> easily see the hollowness of utterances by many distinguished "Lecturers" of
>> this gathering. 'Shun path of West, be proud Bangladeshis' cried someone.
>> But how and for what we need to do that nobody advised and for that matter
>> none ever mentioned what there is in Bangladesh that one could be proud of.
>> Bangladesh is a poor country ruled by thieves and humbugs from its very
>> inception and the same scenario is continuing even today. Her past was dark,
>> a subservient and poor converted Muslims people in a primitive society
>> dominated by a degenerated and equally false but proud Hindus since the 19th
>> century. Before that we were just untouchable converted Muslims to the
>> Turkish, Afghan or Iranian rulers whose religion happened to be Islam.
>>
>> Do we need to feel ashamed to admit that? No, I do not. I keep my head high
>> as long as my forefathers or I have done no harm to anybody or caused
>> distress to any individual or a group in any way. Why we need to be proud or
>> be ashamed of being Bangladeshis? Why can't we be just simple Bangladeshi
>> looking after our own good? And for that matter why should we shun the path
>> of West? Should not we learn honesty, science and technology, art and
>> literature and all that is good in the West or for that matter anywhere on
>> earth? I admit that everything that is West is not good, some of the Western
>> things we may reject out rightly and without any hesitation but there are
>> many things in the West we need to learn and adopt and without which we can
>> not even survive.
>>
>> Those NRBs attending the gathering are also Western products and without
>> Western education and training, and most importantly Western culture, they
>> are nothing and they have nothing to offer to Bangladesh. Look at their
>> dress, people seating on the dais, what sort of dress they were putting on?
>> Dr. Kamal Hossain, can you live without a suit even in high summer in
>> Bangladesh?
>>
>> I do not echo Nirad Chowdhury when he said, "all that was good and living
>> within us was made, shaped and quickened by the same British rule" but the
>> fact is, for sure, not just the saying of a fool and the same way we can say
>> like him that all that can uplift us is available in the West and our
>> contact with the West is for our own survival only. West does not need us
>> for anything. I do not say "Shut-up you hypocrites, don't talk nonsense" to
>> those self-appointed distinguished "Lecturers" but I would not be surprised
>> if some one says so. Is this gathering for any good to Bangladesh or just an
>> exhibition of self importance of some individuals? To whom they talk seating
>> in a posh hotel room in a Western environment and condemning the same West
>> they represent? There should be a limit of idiotic pronunciations.
>>
>> "Expatriate Bangladeshis called for an end to the existing political culture
>> and attitude, and restoration of the traditional values of serving the
>> community". What is new in their call? We hear such call every day and how
>> to end the existing political culture and corruption nobody could tell us as
>> yet. And what are our traditional values in Bangladesh? When and who ever
>> served anybody in Bangladesh except himself or herself? We need not minimize
>> or dishonour a very few in our society who were and are still honest but
>> their numbers are very few and that makes there talks just nonsense
>> chitchat. What Bangladesh needs is an honest government, rule of law and no
>> self-appointed, self-serving foreign or local advisers.
>>
>> "Shunning the materialistic path of the West, the people of Bangladesh need
>> to nurture and uphold their own values" they said on the second day of the
>> three-day conference of NRBs.
>>
>> Western path is not only the materialistic path as these people say
>> forgetting that they run away from Bangladesh to get those materialistic
>> things they shamelessly dare to condemn now. How many of you would like to
>> give up your foreign passports and get back to Bangladesh to become imam of
>> a mosque, a corrupt bureaucrat or a thief politician, sirs?
>>
>> "A good leadership is essentially dynamic and it allows individuals'
>> potentials to find room for utilisation" said Dr. Kamal Hossain whose
>> business is to seat in every dais on every occasion and offer his wise
>> counsel. Advice is free, Dr. Hossain knows it well but he lives as an
>> absentee landowner and would never admit that absentee land owners are the
>> number one enemies of Bangladesh. Should he not give-up all her lands and
>> encourage other to do so as an honest adviser to the nation?
>>
>> "People yarn for contributing to their country, not passive and second class
>> subjects, people need to be truly empowered citizens" , Dr. Hossain and the
>> eminent jurist (?) continued, "people should have the right to choose their
>> leadership which will listen to them, involve them in decision-making and
>> empower them properly". "Yes, yes Sir, did he ever pass this advice to Mujib
>> when you were his first lieutenant and a trusted adviser? Why you talk all
>> these high sounding things now, Mr. eminent jurist? What was your role in
>> BAKSAL formation? What good you have done to Bangladesh until today?
>>
>> The most amusing thing was said by Foreign Adviser Iftekhar Ahmed Chowdhury
>> when he said that "non-resident Bangladeshis are often privileged to have
>> the highest level of education and exposure to cultures where education is
>> an end in itself, not a means to a job". What does it mean, Mr. Adviser? You
>> may not understand but the reality is far from the truth especially for the
>> NBRs. Of course, that we can not say about NRBs who have no education from
>> their adopted country and are engaged in business like restaurants or
>> working at petrol stations. "NRBs and their children can volunteer to help
>> train our teachers, especially to teach English", the adviser suggested. But
>> is it a feasible suggestion? And how and why shall NRBs children do that
>> job? Are they qualified English teachers? Is teaching such a simple job,
>> dear Sir? Or, will the NRBs IT experts will come to Bangladesh and work on
>> Bangladesh salary? Is there anybody to do that?
>>
>> Bangladesh's Foreign Secretary Touhid Hossain said the second generation
>> NRBs should come back and actively get engaged in business, development and
>> politics.
>>
>> That is a good suggestion but what response he got? How many he found to
>> give up their foreign passports to "get engaged in business, development and
>> politics" in Bangladesh?
>>
>> The simple fact is the future of Bangladesh's remains in the hands of the
>> Bangladeshi people who live and ready to die in Bangladesh. Hardly any good
>> can come from those who run away from the country. They would be the larks
>> of the summer if Bangladesh ever gets any summer and all those talks are
>> nothing but nonsense chitchats. It is a pity that people put so much weight
>> on these sorts of useless conferences.
>>
>> I said before, the future of Bangladesh lies in the hands of the Bangladeshi
>> people and not on those who found their paradises in foreign countries.
>> Those NRBs with foreign passports I strongly suggest that they stay where
>> they are and if they can do small things for us please do it quietly. If
>> your patriotism is still bubbling, through away your foreign passports, come
>> home and live with us and do anything good that you can with us and
>> together. No more conference please and no more advice!
>>
>>
>> S. Ahmad, Chittagong, Bangladesh
>> E mail : sahmadctg@yahoo.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
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