4. If the club fail to achieve the goal of a top four finish, do you believe that Wenger should leave?
Debbie: "To be honest I am not sure on this one, I love Arsene Wenger and what he has done for the club, but I do think he is getting a bit set in his ways and there doesn't seem to be anyone who can help him go in the right direction, we all know our defence is more than suspect but he refuses to bring in specialist help in this department, quoting he has been a manager for 35 years and doesn't need advise, we can all do with help from time to time, I've been doing my type of job for 25 years and if there was part of it I was having difficulties with I would not hesitate to seek help. If he chooses to go that's one thing, but I don't want him sacked."
Layen: "NO! See answer to next question!"
Darren: "No, I don’t think Wenger should leave unless he decides it’s time to go. You’ll find the board have a lot to answer for as it has all changed since Dein left. Is that a coincidence?? Think not !!"
Thamer: "Certainly. As I said before, in order to achieve success, second chances must be rarely given. And for Arsene, he's been given six years of chances now."
Khalid: "No, Wenger should not leave if we fail to reach the top 4 this season. Arsenal are not be the club they are today without Arsene Wenger. Wenger is always able to create a great squad with the little money he is given, he is a master tactician, he scouts youngsters with talent and are able to develop them into world class footballers, and is the most successful manager in club history."
Rob: "I think if we fail to achieve a top 4 finish and one or more of RVP/Theo/TV jump ship because of it, the writing is on the wall. I don't really see it as a matter of what should happen; I just see really no way it doesn't happen."
Olasubomi: "He should be retained. I respect him a lot caused he's got great vision for the club. He must act fast for him not to lose his respect."
Muzammil: "No. If the club doesn't finish in the top 4, Wenger will bring quality players. He will get rid of 'dead-wood' players. Just give him a season or two I say."
Shrey: "Personally if it was on me, then I would NEVER want Wenger to leave. He is our most prized asset (even though many fans don't think like that) and even if we don't get to top 4 he is the perfect person to help us get back to top4 again next season IMO."
Gazatta: "Yes, Wenger should leave if we don't make top 4."
Iain: "Nope...but I believe he will be forced to."
Paul: "No! I see no one out there who would do a better job with the same resources."
Ahson: "Yes, he should be given a place in the board to thank him for his service, but a change would be needed if there is no CL."
Andres: "Maybe yes, but honestly, I can't imagine another manager to coach Arsenal, his departure will change a style and a philosophy I fell in love with."
Robert: "I think if we fail to achieve a top 4 finish and one or more of RVP/Theo/TV jump ship because of it, the writing is on the wall. I don't really see it as a matter of what should happen, I just see really no way it doesn't happen."
Sina: "No, I think Mr.Wenger should remain at the club until one of our club legends is ready to takeover or even someone that he recommends, I would be up for it because he loves the club and i still love him and trust him. I can’t see anyone who can do better with current situation if he leaves at the end of the season, even more of our stars would follow him out of the club and his presence still attracts many talented players to our club. Such a young team needs a gaffer like him who knows how to get the best out of his players with potential that they have and most players flourish under him."
Toni: "Ivan Gazidis has stated that the club is financially capable enough to be run without the riches of the Champions League should the club fail to qualify. No matter what position Arsenal finishes this season, Wenger will still remain the right man for the job."
Ray:
"No I don’t, as many football fans will say, Form is temporary, class is permanent. I believe the same goes for our most successful manager. He has lots to bring to our club yet."
5. Are you satisfied with the way Gazidis and Kroenke have been running the club? Do you believe that Usmanov and Dein should takeover? Is it time for Peter Hill-Wood and the board to relinquish their positions at the club?
Peter Hill-Wood... is it time for him to go?
Debbie: "Has Kroenke been running the club? I don't personally see any running of the club from him, no input at all. As for Gazidis I think personally he is out of his depth, but as for bringing Usmanov and Dein back, no thanks. Usmanov is a Manchester United supporter and I think he will interfere too much with the running of the club, we'll end up like Chelsea and I would personally hate that. As for Dein he made a hell of a lot of money from Arsenal and if my memory serves me he didn't want to build the new stadium, I never think you should go back anyway, if Dein did come back it wouldn't be the same.
As for the board and Sir Peter Hill-Wood, I think they could be holding progression back, Lady Bracewell-Smith didn't seem too fond of them did she, and time for some fresh faces maybe.
These are just my personal opinions; I've been a supporter for over 45 years now and have seen worse times than this."
Layen: "NO! I believe we should bring back Dein, BUT and a very big but, there's no point bringing him back under the current "powers that be". We only have to look at why Dein left in the first place. Dein/Usmanov is an option but I think Kroenke should be given the opportunity to show his hand. He needs to put his hands in his pockets. Not just on transfers but wages also! Clubs like Sunderland, Fulham, Stoke, Spuds will all outspend us on new players and will fight tooth and nail to keep their best players and they’re not bigger clubs than us! It seems we let players' contracts run down and/or sell them on as soon as someone else is interested or they become slightly jaded/disillusioned. RVP, TV5 & TW14 all need new contracts BEFORE the January window and their ambitions need to be met in the January and summer windows of 2012.
If we continue with the "sustainability model" we will be a mid-table team for the next 5/10 years. Now I will always support Arsenal so if this is the case then I would appreciate a little respect from the board and let them be honest with me and say that’s what’s going to happen. Not sell our best players every year then try and kid us into thinking we're replacing lions with lions when we're replacing them with pussy cats! Wenger is NOT the problem! He can’t slag his team off that wouldn’t make them perform and he needs them to perform for him! He can’t go against his employers; he'd be out of a job! He's stuck between a rock and a hard place; he needs more support from "upstairs"."
Darren: "I’d want the club principles to remain the same when Dein was there as we were winning trophies. Yes, a younger hungry breed, but a mix of old and new ideas wouldn’t hurt the board which has become stale in my opinion. I’m not so sure about Kroenke who hasn’t told us his intentions."
Thamer: "You rarely see them having any media attention. And this is really important to show that they are behind the team and it’s not just a business (i.e. Fenway sports)."
Khalid: "I am not satisfied with the way the two morons, Gazidis and Hill-Wood, are running the club. It seems like Wenger is becoming their scapegoat for their mistakes. I believe that Usmanov and Dein should takeover because Usmanov has the money and Dein has always made the best decisions for the club. It is time for Hill-Wood and the board to relinquish their positions. Usmanov, Dein, and Wenger stay, the Arsenal board out!"
Rob: "The club has been run pretty well. The problem is that I don't think everything they have said can be taken at face value or has been 100% factual. I think the moves and decisions we have made recently have shown our financial situation isn't as rosy as they'd have us believe. If we are actually rolling in money and this is what we're getting, we have every reason to be upset. If we are still somewhat tied down by the stadium deal and simply not able to compete with the "bigger" clubs for another few years then what can we do? I'm not sure which reality is correct or if we'll ever know. Maybe one day Arsene will make a lot of money with a tell-all biography. It’s basically our only chance in ever knowing the truth of what has gone on behind the stage for the past five years."
Olasubomi: "Not satisfied. Yes, that would be a great idea. Peter should remain, but I think Gazidis should step aside."
Muzammil: "I would like( and hope) that Dein and Usmanov should take over. Usmanov would be able to provide a bigger transfer kit. Dein and Arsene's partnership was just legendary stuff. Dein was a brilliant negotiator as well. I sincerely hope Dein comes back and Usmanov takes over and it might pay off."
Shrey: "I am satisfied with the way Kroenke is managing the club, because basically he is just trusting the persons he has in his place to manage the club & doesn't take decisions haphazardly, which is all you really want from an owner. But as for Gazidis, I am not that happy with his output till now but whether he has done good or not should be decided on a 5-year basis because it is not that easy to just increase the commercial income in a year or 2. He has said many times he is working on a 5-year plan & we should I think give him time till 2014 before deciding whether he has done good or not. As for Dein, I would have preferred if he was with us during the transfer negotiations because he seems to be better at it than people we have at present plus he was really the right hand man of AW, so I do prefer him over Gazidis. But if having him means Usmanov being our owner then I am TOTALLY against it. I think Kroenke is a much better person to own arsenal than a person with shady past like Usmanov. Also I not really a fan of Sugar Daddies who say I would give 60m more to invest if I am the owner. I think each & every football club should work within its own means because this sugar daddy phenomenon is not at all sustainable in the long run! Clubs like Chelsea or City don't have their own identity, they are their owners pet & do fans want Arsenal to be the same? At least I don't."
Gazatta: "Usmanov and Dein would be better for Arsenal in my opinion. Kroenke has no love for the club. His only interest is to make money. Hill-Wood is a waste of space. He does nothing for this club anymore. He won't be missed at all."
Iain: "I believe that there should be better communication from the board...some statements with regard to AW future and our plans need to be more forthcoming. I’m not a believer in going backwards so find it hard to believe reinstating Dein would be a good move."
Paul: "If SK isn't prepared to invest any cash or even turn up now and again to watch a match he should go! Usmanov has more cash and has implied in interviews that he would happily be our sugar daddy!"
Ahson: "I have always wanted R&W. The current board is useless. Arsenal fans have criticised Usmanov in the past, but Dein is there to help him."
Andres: "No, they don't seem committed to the club, they seem more interested in money, think that if this club would like to change, everybody involved in the club, must feel the pain of a defeat and the joy of winning, because without having this we have no ambition, for example, Chelsea owner Roman Abramovich, watches every game and you can see how he suffers their defeats, because he loves the club, and by loving it, he knows what's best for it, so if he needs to fire somebody because they didn't gave something for the club, he does it because he knows what's best for the club. Usmanov and Dein, for me, should return because they love the club and know how to manage it thanks to their love to Arsenal. I think things may change in a positive side for us if they return to the club."
Robert: "The club has been run pretty well. The problem is that I don't think everything they have said can be taken at face value or has been 100% factual. I think the moves and decisions we have made recently have shown our financial situation isn't as rosy as they'd have us believe. If we are actually rolling in money and this is what we're getting, we have every reason to be upset. If we are still somewhat tied down by the stadium deal and simply not able to compete with the "bigger" clubs for another few years then what can you do? I'm not sure which reality is correct or if we'll ever know. Maybe one day Arsene will make a lot of money with a tell-all biography. Basically, it’s our only chance in ever knowing the truth of what has gone on behind the stage for the past five years."
Sina: "Personally I prefer someone like Dein to Gazidis. Someone who knows more how to work in football terms and his connection with Wenger and the way he would advise Arsene. He has been a massive help for him during his years at the club but not sure if at the moment there is chance for him to return. Usmanov would be be the type of sugar-daddy owner so now that we have waited for our self-sustained model and FFP coming we better off Usmanov and give more chances to Kroenke and hopefully he will keep supporting Mr. Wenger.
Finally I have to say that I’m really looking forward to future and which I believe is RED AND WHITE with core of these current youngsters being British. If we start to win trophies, we can dominate for the rest of the decade."
Toni: "As for the Board, I don't really like sticking my nose into their business. As long as they don't interfere with the proceedings on the pitch, Omar Almasri can take over Arsenal for all I care."
Ray:
"I have little interest in board room politics or finances. However I don’t like the idea of having a man with a dubious background on the board of our club (Usmanov). David Dein had his chance and sold out, which puts him in the same category of Nasri as far as I am concerned. So if that leaves us with Gazidis and Kroenke, so be it for now."
My Take:-
As you all can see, there are interesting views and opinions, some vary one another which is expected. Most still voice their support for Arsene Wenger, and I'm one of them. Yes, he has made his mistakes and the team has struggled, but he still is the club's greatest ever manager and I still believe he can get this talented side to win honors and trophies.
Regarding Peter Hill-Wood; I believe it's time for him to leave. He has done great things for his club, him and his family, but over the past six years, he hasn't convinced me that he wants the club to win trophies while caring more on the revenue the club is getting. During the last shareholder meeting, Hill-Wood repeatedly tried to dodge questions which was ridiculous and worrying on his part.
Ivan Gazidis needs to do more, especially regarding the low and pathetic sponsorship deals the club is under. He has done well in convincing Wenger and the club to go on the Asian tour, but needs to do more. He has been less than convincing in the transfer market ever since he became CEO a few years back, and no wonder many are calling for the return of David Dein. The record bids for Yann M'Vila and Mario Gotze that were rejected in the summer, hopefully is a sign that the club is now willing to spend and pay big money for top quality players.
He is beginning to deliver on the sponsorship front and has made deals with Carlsberg, Bettson, Indesit, and the big news being reported by The Express is that the club is looking to end its partnership with Emirates, if it doesn't get a deal worthy of the club's stature and reputation. (Emirates pays the club a paltry 5.5 million pounds a year) These are all good signs that Gazidis and the club is being pro-active on that front, especially as these low deals have affected the club in the transfer front, over the years.
"Silent" Stan Kroenke has finally broken his silence and made an interview with The Telegraph. In that interview, Kroenke praised the Glazers for the way they run Manchester United which was a huge gaffe in my opinion. The Glazers are not liked and have been criticized and protested against by United supporters and have brought by a considerable amount of debt. If that's the way Kroenke wants to run the club, then I'm deeply worried.
On the pitch, though, the team is going through a very good run of form and Robin Van Persie is on fire and has proven himself to be an excellent captain and leader. I must also reserve praise for the excellent performances during this run for Aaron Ramsey, Laurent Koscielny, Gervinho, Tomas Rosicky, Mikel Arteta, Wojciech Szcezsny and Alex Song. They've all been pivotal to the team's run and climb back to the top half of the table. Gervinho is proving to be a great signing and Ramsey is looking like the player we all expect him to become.
Robin Van Persie... a player in the form of his life
Despite my concerns off the pitch, the team has been performing very well and are on an excellent run of form, and Wenger deserves credit for it as well. Let's continue supporting the team and the players, and hopefully this time.... we can get a long-awaited trophy.
I would like to thank everyone who participated, here are their Twitter handles, if you want to follow them:
Debbie Byard- @DebbieB48
Layen Wisdom- @Sheffield Wisdom
Darren Rogers- @kevsat1
Thamer Al Zoubi- @Thamer_alz
Khalid Khan- @KHALIDKhan91
Olasubomi David- @iam_Subby
Muzammil Hussain- @footyfanatic_7
Shrey Sudan- @shreysudan
Gazatta- @GazAtta
Iain Luxford- @Luxinho77
Paul Stubberfield- @ArcadeFireUK
Ahson Nawaz- @a_nawaz
Andres Hernandez- @andresehao
Robert Hodgins- @RobhRyan
Ray Verschoyle- @RayVerschoyle
Sina Tanha- @Sina_TheGunner
Toni Okike- @enigma106
Cheers and take care,
Omar
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