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I wanted to show to the public what contradictions and lies that Julie Ryals is posting upon her webstie. After doing much digging of my own, I can show some “read between the lines” that need to be made clear. Now by the way, I am not defending her in anyway, but, after all that I have read, and then dug up, I feel that there are parts of this site that show bustedscammers is “scamming” the public with, and since they are so big to point fingers, let’s take a look at how many fingers are pointing back at them. Now I am sure, I too will be the next on their website, due to that it looks as though I am defending angela ledcke, but, in fact I just wanted to point out some hidden facts that people are not seeing on the website.
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Although Angela Ledcke often averts the discussion to her “hubby” and her devotion to him, their family, her community and church, and claims of being a good-deed-doing/honest and upstanding citizen when she is being caught in her online scams and lies, seeing her match.com profile (as well as others) makes those claims a little difficult to believe! These profiles are ONLY being posted here to demonstrate that what she claims regarding her personal life is also deceptive.
What you all need to do is go ahead go to the busted scammers site, and take a look at the PDF files they offer you on these dating services. The date the PDF file was made is on November 11th of 2006, now it is 2008, do you mean to tell me that they can prove that something such as a dating service from 06 which is a good 2 years ago, if not longer, does that mean that Angela Ledcke is still doing such stuff? Evidentally, her being on dating services is not as true as they seem, Angela Ledcke is still with her husband of what 8 Years, who she has stated on her site has adopted her 2 younger daughters. The above post on the busted scammers site, is merly proof of outlandish ladies who think that this type of exposure is going to prove that Angela is a scammer? Devotion, I think a marriage of 8 years show devotion! I also see her devotion to her children, pretty clear on her site. Now let me ask you this, how do you people know if she goes to church or not? What she does for her church? Do you have any type of proof?
From what I have read so far accusing Angela of deceiving people about her marriage and children, the busted scammers website and Julie Ryals all are way off base, incorrect, and scamming all busted scammer audiences into believing your busted scammer site.
I wanted to show to the public what contradictions and lies that Julie Ryals is posting upon her webstie. After doing much digging of my own, I can show some “read between the lines” that need to be made clear. Now by the way, I am not defending her in anyway, but, after all that I have read, and then dug up, I feel that there are parts of this site that show bustedscammers is “scamming” the public with, and since they are so big to point fingers, let’s take a look at how many fingers are pointing back at them. Now I am sure, I too will be the next on their website, due to that it looks as though I am defending angela ledcke, but, in fact I just wanted to point out some hidden facts that people are not seeing on the website.
1.)
Although Angela Ledcke often averts the discussion to her “hubby” and her devotion to him, their family, her community and church, and claims of being a good-deed-doing/honest and upstanding citizen when she is being caught in her online scams and lies, seeing her match.com profile (as well as others) makes those claims a little difficult to believe! These profiles are ONLY being posted here to demonstrate that what she claims regarding her personal life is also deceptive.
What you all need to do is go ahead go to the busted scammers site, and take a look at the PDF files they offer you on these dating services. The date the PDF file was made is on November 11th of 2006, now it is 2008, do you mean to tell me that they can prove that something such as a dating service from 06 which is a good 2 years ago, if not longer, does that mean that Angela Ledcke is still doing such stuff? Evidentally, her being on dating services is not as true as they seem, Angela Ledcke is still with her husband of what 8 Years, who she has stated on her site has adopted her 2 younger daughters. The above post on the busted scammers site, is merly proof of outlandish ladies who think that this type of exposure is going to prove that Angela is a scammer? Devotion, I think a marriage of 8 years show devotion! I also see her devotion to her children, pretty clear on her site. Now let me ask you this, how do you people know if she goes to church or not? What she does for her church? Do you have any type of proof?
From what I have read so far accusing Angela of deceiving people about her marriage and children, the busted scammers website and Julie Ryals all are way off base, incorrect, and scamming all busted scammer audiences into believing your busted scammer site.
It amazes me how such a reputable person as Julie Ryals, will sink so low
to build such a website, then to Scam her own audience into believing her.
2.) From the busted scammers site:
In mid 2006 Angela Ledcke was offered a Pre-Trial Diversion Program by the Hamilton County Prosecutor's Office in Indiana in relation to criminal charges brought against her for multiple counts of deceptive check writing. In an attempt to con the Prosecutor's Office, Angela claimed to have completed her required community service hours by working on a "non-profit" website. This website proved to be owned and operated by Angela, herself (boafnetwork). Whois Case number 29D04-0603-CM-02443, State Vs. Angela Ledcke, was re-docketed with the Hamilton County Superior Court Four and heard on September 17, 2007 at 2:00. (Last appointment listed at 2:00). (To avoid criminal conviction through the pre-trial diversion program offered through the prosecutor's office, Ms. Ledcke was placed on probation and required by the Court to pay restitution, serve community service hours, and obtain counseling, etc., in order to fulfill the requirements and conditions to have the criminal charges eventually dismissed.) Angela Ledcke's online response to her deceptive check writing was the same as it was for her plagiarism and scamming, etc., was "Who hasn't?"
Here is my take on this: We all know how to look up public records, and yes it clearly shows Angela got her self into trouble with some checks, I found out from the Hamilton County Courts that her case has been Dismissed, she had an attorney by the name of Jason Jackson, and Angela did do her community service but not for some website as bustedscammers is stating, but for the American Legion and she did 60 hours of service, verses the 40 required by the state. I also found out that Angela has paid all her debts owed on the checks, and that there was absolutely No counseling required. I am pretty shocked to see such slander, the busted scammers site does not want anyone to know the information that I am writing because it will make them look bad, yet, once again, scamming their own audience into believing that Angela Ledcke is such a scammer, when in fact scammers don’t pay their bad checks off, nor do they complete what the state requires them to, so this proves once again, that busted scammers is hiding the Hole story. Isn't that consider scammer their audience???As for the who hasn’t part, there are many people who have written a check and it bounce, does that make these people scammers? Many of the people who are in on this bustedscammers have written bad checks, by accident, so does that mean them scam? No.
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Devastation in Katrina, here is what bustedscammers has on their site:
In the aftermath of hurricane Katrina, while most people where thinking of others and how they could help, Angela Ledcke was thinking of how she could take advantage of the situation and help herself! Bustedscammers was forwarded from an online parrot group several solicitations made by Ms. Ledcke to the group shortly after hurricane Katrina. In these solicitations Ms. Ledcke (living in Indiana) was requesting donations of bird feed, pet food, and even household items such as paper towels - claiming that she had "rescued" animals and rare birds from the devastated New Orleans region. The group leader recognized that it was a scam because of the immediate ban on the removal of animals such as exotic birds from the State of Louisiana after hurricane Katrina.
Now take a closer look, where is the proof in this post? Can we see the actual person who sent this to bustedscammers? As I did my google search, I did see that Angela Ledcke and her family offered their home to any Katrina victims. That to me sounds like a person wanting to help. I also found out that Angela put her name on the abandoned dog and cat list, to offer a home until owners were located. She actually called the Red Cross and they directed her in to the direction to help pet owners. You say “Solicitations” does Julie Ryals even know if Angela did get any animals, or if Angela had spoken to people and wanted to offer help? I am really intrigued now.
Who is the group leader, let the public see the post of this scam.
4.)
Below are the sites that busted scammers says Angela has owned, or ownes:
Also selling under:http://www.ecrater.com/product.php?pid=1587905 (this pulls up as not such product)
5.) Below is a copy of Angela’s post in a Forum, and the responses of the other members. I do not see Angela asking for pity, I see a website page that has been copied by busted scammers, and posted on their site, it shows clearly that it is not to be copied, yet, once again, bustedscammers steals and copies it, to place upon their own website, isn’t that Copyright Infringement, they clearly did not give proper credits, nor do they show any sort of proof they got permission to copy this site!
Looks like bustedscammers is Busted! Caught red handed! Look at the link below for yourself, you tell me what you think.
http://www.bustedscammers.com/type.htm (this site clearly shows nothing regarding angela asking for pity, it just shows what cyber bullies are, the traits and what to look for, so does that make her a bad person?)
Now on to the Forum
Here is a Copy of the Forum that bustedscammers has on their site, claiming that Angela is harassing members, etc….etc….
Let’s all read it very Carefully.
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Angela38 MemberMember is offlinePosts: 32
Posted: Mar 28th, 2007 at 10:45 am
Hi, I am Angela Ledcke, yes, I am back, yet with many improvements!Hello, Angela Ledcke. Yes, it's me, the one you all just wish would go away. Let me explain why I joined: I have been through enough and am trying to move past it all and show everyone the changes and my improvements, thanks to the help of friends, family and my therapist, and lawyers. I would like to invite you all to see my 2 new sites, one is a secured ssl certfied site for shopping, and the other is an informative warning site, that is to help others not make the mistakes I made. Hope to hear from everyone! Oh, Hi Tara Burner, glad to see you in here, I would like to talk to you sometime, email me! Angela http://www.angelaledcke.com/ http://shop.angelaledcke.com/
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Ravish30 MemberMember is offlinePosts: 222
Posted: Mar 29th, 2007 at 09:55 am
Hi Angela Can you explain to me why someone would want to pay YOU $99.95 a year to read your story when they can READ it for free over on: http://www.bustedscammers.com/ Shelly
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taraburner MemberMember is offlinePosts: 119
Posted: Mar 29th, 2007 at 09:57 am
Mar 28th, 2007 at 10:45 am, Angela38 wrote:
Hi, I am Angela Ledcke, yes, I am back, yet with many improvements! Oh, Hi Tara Burner, glad to see you in here, I would like to talk to you sometime, email me! Angela http://www.angelaledcke.com/ http://shop.angelaledcke.com/
how can one improve on trash? and 'glad to see me here' huh...I wasn't even part of this forum til everyone told me the lunatic was calling out my name again! You truly are a piece of work Tara
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sandersmm MemberMember is offlinePosts: 10
Posted: Mar 30th, 2007 at 04:50 am
Angela, please stop threatening that you have lawyers working on your side. You know you are nuts and that isn't true. Didn't you once threaten everyone with the FBI too? How crazy is THAT? Provoking people and including them in your crazy schemes will get you in more trouble than you're already in! You made your reputation by your OWN bad behavior. It is nobody's fault but your own. The more you try to make excuses and point blame to others - the more you convince everyone that NOTHING you say can be believed. You seem to enjoy causing constant chaos and attracting negative attention to yourself. I think we all have the message already - and personally, I think you are in need of serious psychological help - yet you seem very proud that your name is synonymous with a foolish, lying lunatic. MaryAnn Sanders
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Angela38 MemberMember is offlinePosts: 32
Posted: Mar 30th, 2007 at 09:25 am
Mary: I have no idea who you are, why you are so hateful and after me? What have I done to you? I would like to know? Now, let's see, you all want me to prove my ebay identity, see BS has told you about the one id: aledcke but they have yet to discover the other, which is my selling ebay, and it does have 100% positive selling feedback and is not private! Aledcke on ebay is private due to that is my buying ebay and it's noones business what I buy. Now from my expereince in the past, whenever I have sold or bought from someone the BS people take that information and well we all know where it goes, then specific individuals contact the people I have bought or sold to, feeding them about me and the bs site. TARA: yes you have threatened me in emails I have each and every one of them. So there YOU are lying, I have the proof, you email address the headers and the ip. That is the Truth. Honestly I think that you have it out for me because of some other reason. Shellie: I don't know you either, and frankly speaking, I could care less who you are. Yes, you are right I join and have joined Ryze over and over again, and that is and was to post about my sites. Why not? Everyone else does! You all seem to think you really know me, by saying I have a disorder and a problem, if you know me so well then you would know that I am not out to scam. I made my share of mistakes in the past with ebay and bidville and am Honest enough to admit it, now it is 2007 and bidville and ebay accounts are in Great standing! No lies, no scams, no bad feedback! That is a start, and proof that I am sincerly trying and going to continue to keep up the good work and positive feedback. As I have spoken to many people on the net, I have not been the only person who has copied from another person, there are literally thousands of people who have and are doing it. I made that mistake but when I was informed of it I immediately removed the sites and photos. Now that I have my own SSL Certified Secure sites, I am 100% legal, my words, my pictures! There is another start and proof. You kept saying and the BS sites says" why does she use FREE site creators" at the time I had no idea how or what to do, but now I do, and I have paid a good price for my domains, which I have more than 7 of them, I just haven't worked on the others yet. Yes I have depression, and I know some of the people who hate me so much have it too! Does that make me a bad person? No. My personal family issues with my kids, well what you have read on BS is very wrong and in Fact a lie, I have the papers from court and can and am able to prove the REAL story! That too is going on my membership pages, due to I can show what really went on, and the Judges orders to the father and the copy of the court Transcripts my lawyer got. It is pretty amazing when a Step-Mom says in court if she has to take the child she will file for divorce. I have that proof in the transcripts! It's ready and out there, and I have done this due to if it's going to be put out there about me, and my family then I want to make sure the TRUTH is out there, not just some BS site that puts what they have been told! There again, just because I want the FACTS and TRUTH to be seen does not mean I am a bad person, or have a disorder. It means I am tired of this sutff on the net, the BS site that thinks they know everything about me. They don't, you don't! My site does not just talk about me, there are other people that are on this site, people and children who have been damaged by the internet! Think what you want, believe who you want, all I know is I have the FACTS, the PROOF and the TRUTH, and am being honest and professiional about how I have placed it on my site! Angela Oh lastly, me ebay I sell on I am not posting it for you all to destroy that for me too! _________________ Secure SSL Certified & Verified Online Store: http://shop.angelaledcke.com/ Join the Down-n-Dirty forum at: http://www.angelaledcke.com/
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sandersmm MemberMember is offlinePosts: 10
Posted: Mar 30th, 2007 at 11:42 am
Angela, Gee, Angela, I have no idea what you are rambling on and on about! Sounds like you have more personal problems than anyone realized, yet I somehow don't doubt that! You can put a twist and spin on being a victim of just about anything - can't you? Oh, and Angela - my name is MaryAnn. (A "professional" such as youself shouldn't make such a careless error when addressing someone.) MaryAnn
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Angela38 MemberMember is offlinePosts: 32
Posted: Mar 30th, 2007 at 12:00 pm
Maryann, Is that better? Goodness, the nit picking. This is what I mean, once a person makes some silly little name mistake the attacks just go wild! Talk about disorders, shoot it shows you all have a vendetta against me. Do you not see this?
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sandersmm MemberMember is offlinePosts: 10
Posted: Mar 30th, 2007 at 12:27 pm
No, Angela. That isn't better. Look at my name again. Do you see the "A" is a capital? I don't think it is "nit picking" for me to expect to be addressed by my actual name and not "Mary" and not one you've just made up for me. That
only shows that you have a lack of respect for those you address. Sort of goes along with your lack of respect for online manners of any sort, though.... As for the "woe is Angela" routine...... You've already worn that one out! MaryAnn
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Ravish30 MemberMember is offlinePosts: 222
Posted: Mar 30th, 2007 at 01:34 pm
Angela, I could care less what you have done to others...my issue with you is your hit/spam/run tactics that you do to ME and my Ryze Network! Months ago I asked you nicely in a PM to please stay off my Classy Chic Network...but yet, you made how many FAKE ID's and Names and come on there to spam your links, your story and crap. THAT is MY personal issue with you. If someone ASKED me to stay off their GROUP or FORUM that I was NOT wanted there....well dag gone it....I would stay off! I don't care what you do to OTHER Ryze Networks...just stay off of mine.
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Angela38 MemberMember is offlinePosts: 32
Posted: Mar 31st, 2007 at 07:01 pm
Mary Ann! What exactly is your bone with me? What have I done to you? You seem to have this anger and animosity towards me? Now you state that I have no respect to the people I address? What about your lack of respect towards someone You don't know? Now, if you want to lash out at me, please have a reason, but if it is only over how I have addressed you or spelled your name, that is pretty silly! Please let's all hear what your problem with me is! Shelly: I made it clear on the other forums, I am not going into your Ryze, don't want to, could care less what is going on in your Ryze. Actually, if I want to know what is going on in Ryze, I now have enough people in Ryze who forward me all that I need to know, and what is useful for me personally to have that regards me. Otherwise, your Ryze is Your Ryze and I am not interested in it. The message should be very clear, that I am staying out of your Classy Chic Ryze group! Ok? Tara: so be it, you dislike me, that is fine, but to lie about never once emailing me personally with your hate and threat emails is just more proof that I have to show the Contradictions to your story, and BS story. I have attempted to understand why you personally have an issue with Me, yet you have failed to make it clear. You have Never been a customer of mine, I have Never taken your money, nor am I interested in your money. So please inform me what your issue is with me! Enlighten me! Facts are I give more of my products away for free, than I charge for. The many of you in all these forums Think you know all about me, but the Facts are: You have no Idea, you only know what you have read, and what you think is the actual story and truth! In Facts, the BS site has got some truth to it, but there are Serious Wrongs, and contradictions to what they say, I have that proof, and Proof is better than the BS facts they think they have! BS was not in the court room, BS was not in my seat with what I was going through, and BS is not me, they have in fact done COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT on their entire site, and that goes to show they are falsley accusing me of copyright when they too have done copyright infringement! My Angela Ledcke site has enough to back up each and every issue BS has on their site, and I am most definetly not one bit afraid to show the proof, which will prove what the BS people have really done. I would Never wish this type of site on anyone, even the people that have made that site. You people have no idea what it has done to me, and how outrageous that site really is! YOU HAVE NO CLUE!
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If you took out the time to Read that Forum very carefully, you will see what happens to a person. How people treat each other, the hate, the accusations, I personally think that this openly shows that bustedscammers has a personal vendetta against Angela, and I can see that by reading this forum copy, and if bustedscammers can get away with such a horrific site, what are they showing their children, and other people. That is not professional, nor is it anything I would want my own child to read, as it clearly shows bullying.
2.) From the busted scammers site:
In mid 2006 Angela Ledcke was offered a Pre-Trial Diversion Program by the Hamilton County Prosecutor's Office in Indiana in relation to criminal charges brought against her for multiple counts of deceptive check writing. In an attempt to con the Prosecutor's Office, Angela claimed to have completed her required community service hours by working on a "non-profit" website. This website proved to be owned and operated by Angela, herself (boafnetwork). Whois Case number 29D04-0603-CM-02443, State Vs. Angela Ledcke, was re-docketed with the Hamilton County Superior Court Four and heard on September 17, 2007 at 2:00. (Last appointment listed at 2:00). (To avoid criminal conviction through the pre-trial diversion program offered through the prosecutor's office, Ms. Ledcke was placed on probation and required by the Court to pay restitution, serve community service hours, and obtain counseling, etc., in order to fulfill the requirements and conditions to have the criminal charges eventually dismissed.) Angela Ledcke's online response to her deceptive check writing was the same as it was for her plagiarism and scamming, etc., was "Who hasn't?"
Here is my take on this: We all know how to look up public records, and yes it clearly shows Angela got her self into trouble with some checks, I found out from the Hamilton County Courts that her case has been Dismissed, she had an attorney by the name of Jason Jackson, and Angela did do her community service but not for some website as bustedscammers is stating, but for the American Legion and she did 60 hours of service, verses the 40 required by the state. I also found out that Angela has paid all her debts owed on the checks, and that there was absolutely No counseling required. I am pretty shocked to see such slander, the busted scammers site does not want anyone to know the information that I am writing because it will make them look bad, yet, once again, scamming their own audience into believing that Angela Ledcke is such a scammer, when in fact scammers don’t pay their bad checks off, nor do they complete what the state requires them to, so this proves once again, that busted scammers is hiding the Hole story. Isn't that consider scammer their audience???As for the who hasn’t part, there are many people who have written a check and it bounce, does that make these people scammers? Many of the people who are in on this bustedscammers have written bad checks, by accident, so does that mean them scam? No.
3.)
Devastation in Katrina, here is what bustedscammers has on their site:
In the aftermath of hurricane Katrina, while most people where thinking of others and how they could help, Angela Ledcke was thinking of how she could take advantage of the situation and help herself! Bustedscammers was forwarded from an online parrot group several solicitations made by Ms. Ledcke to the group shortly after hurricane Katrina. In these solicitations Ms. Ledcke (living in Indiana) was requesting donations of bird feed, pet food, and even household items such as paper towels - claiming that she had "rescued" animals and rare birds from the devastated New Orleans region. The group leader recognized that it was a scam because of the immediate ban on the removal of animals such as exotic birds from the State of Louisiana after hurricane Katrina.
Now take a closer look, where is the proof in this post? Can we see the actual person who sent this to bustedscammers? As I did my google search, I did see that Angela Ledcke and her family offered their home to any Katrina victims. That to me sounds like a person wanting to help. I also found out that Angela put her name on the abandoned dog and cat list, to offer a home until owners were located. She actually called the Red Cross and they directed her in to the direction to help pet owners. You say “Solicitations” does Julie Ryals even know if Angela did get any animals, or if Angela had spoken to people and wanted to offer help? I am really intrigued now.
Who is the group leader, let the public see the post of this scam.
4.)
Below are the sites that busted scammers says Angela has owned, or ownes:
Also selling under:http://www.ecrater.com/product.php?pid=1587905 (this pulls up as not such product)
5.) Below is a copy of Angela’s post in a Forum, and the responses of the other members. I do not see Angela asking for pity, I see a website page that has been copied by busted scammers, and posted on their site, it shows clearly that it is not to be copied, yet, once again, bustedscammers steals and copies it, to place upon their own website, isn’t that Copyright Infringement, they clearly did not give proper credits, nor do they show any sort of proof they got permission to copy this site!
Looks like bustedscammers is Busted! Caught red handed! Look at the link below for yourself, you tell me what you think.
http://www.bustedscammers.com/type.htm (this site clearly shows nothing regarding angela asking for pity, it just shows what cyber bullies are, the traits and what to look for, so does that make her a bad person?)
Now on to the Forum
Here is a Copy of the Forum that bustedscammers has on their site, claiming that Angela is harassing members, etc….etc….
Let’s all read it very Carefully.
Hi, you might already know me! - (Read 1,234 times)
Page: 123
Angela38 MemberMember is offlinePosts: 32
Posted: Mar 28th, 2007 at 10:45 am
Hi, I am Angela Ledcke, yes, I am back, yet with many improvements!Hello, Angela Ledcke. Yes, it's me, the one you all just wish would go away. Let me explain why I joined: I have been through enough and am trying to move past it all and show everyone the changes and my improvements, thanks to the help of friends, family and my therapist, and lawyers. I would like to invite you all to see my 2 new sites, one is a secured ssl certfied site for shopping, and the other is an informative warning site, that is to help others not make the mistakes I made. Hope to hear from everyone! Oh, Hi Tara Burner, glad to see you in here, I would like to talk to you sometime, email me! Angela http://www.angelaledcke.com/ http://shop.angelaledcke.com/
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Ravish30 MemberMember is offlinePosts: 222
Posted: Mar 29th, 2007 at 09:55 am
Hi Angela Can you explain to me why someone would want to pay YOU $99.95 a year to read your story when they can READ it for free over on: http://www.bustedscammers.com/ Shelly
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taraburner MemberMember is offlinePosts: 119
Posted: Mar 29th, 2007 at 09:57 am
Mar 28th, 2007 at 10:45 am, Angela38 wrote:
Hi, I am Angela Ledcke, yes, I am back, yet with many improvements! Oh, Hi Tara Burner, glad to see you in here, I would like to talk to you sometime, email me! Angela http://www.angelaledcke.com/ http://shop.angelaledcke.com/
how can one improve on trash? and 'glad to see me here' huh...I wasn't even part of this forum til everyone told me the lunatic was calling out my name again! You truly are a piece of work Tara
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sandersmm MemberMember is offlinePosts: 10
Posted: Mar 30th, 2007 at 04:50 am
Angela, please stop threatening that you have lawyers working on your side. You know you are nuts and that isn't true. Didn't you once threaten everyone with the FBI too? How crazy is THAT? Provoking people and including them in your crazy schemes will get you in more trouble than you're already in! You made your reputation by your OWN bad behavior. It is nobody's fault but your own. The more you try to make excuses and point blame to others - the more you convince everyone that NOTHING you say can be believed. You seem to enjoy causing constant chaos and attracting negative attention to yourself. I think we all have the message already - and personally, I think you are in need of serious psychological help - yet you seem very proud that your name is synonymous with a foolish, lying lunatic. MaryAnn Sanders
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Angela38 MemberMember is offlinePosts: 32
Posted: Mar 30th, 2007 at 09:25 am
Mary: I have no idea who you are, why you are so hateful and after me? What have I done to you? I would like to know? Now, let's see, you all want me to prove my ebay identity, see BS has told you about the one id: aledcke but they have yet to discover the other, which is my selling ebay, and it does have 100% positive selling feedback and is not private! Aledcke on ebay is private due to that is my buying ebay and it's noones business what I buy. Now from my expereince in the past, whenever I have sold or bought from someone the BS people take that information and well we all know where it goes, then specific individuals contact the people I have bought or sold to, feeding them about me and the bs site. TARA: yes you have threatened me in emails I have each and every one of them. So there YOU are lying, I have the proof, you email address the headers and the ip. That is the Truth. Honestly I think that you have it out for me because of some other reason. Shellie: I don't know you either, and frankly speaking, I could care less who you are. Yes, you are right I join and have joined Ryze over and over again, and that is and was to post about my sites. Why not? Everyone else does! You all seem to think you really know me, by saying I have a disorder and a problem, if you know me so well then you would know that I am not out to scam. I made my share of mistakes in the past with ebay and bidville and am Honest enough to admit it, now it is 2007 and bidville and ebay accounts are in Great standing! No lies, no scams, no bad feedback! That is a start, and proof that I am sincerly trying and going to continue to keep up the good work and positive feedback. As I have spoken to many people on the net, I have not been the only person who has copied from another person, there are literally thousands of people who have and are doing it. I made that mistake but when I was informed of it I immediately removed the sites and photos. Now that I have my own SSL Certified Secure sites, I am 100% legal, my words, my pictures! There is another start and proof. You kept saying and the BS sites says" why does she use FREE site creators" at the time I had no idea how or what to do, but now I do, and I have paid a good price for my domains, which I have more than 7 of them, I just haven't worked on the others yet. Yes I have depression, and I know some of the people who hate me so much have it too! Does that make me a bad person? No. My personal family issues with my kids, well what you have read on BS is very wrong and in Fact a lie, I have the papers from court and can and am able to prove the REAL story! That too is going on my membership pages, due to I can show what really went on, and the Judges orders to the father and the copy of the court Transcripts my lawyer got. It is pretty amazing when a Step-Mom says in court if she has to take the child she will file for divorce. I have that proof in the transcripts! It's ready and out there, and I have done this due to if it's going to be put out there about me, and my family then I want to make sure the TRUTH is out there, not just some BS site that puts what they have been told! There again, just because I want the FACTS and TRUTH to be seen does not mean I am a bad person, or have a disorder. It means I am tired of this sutff on the net, the BS site that thinks they know everything about me. They don't, you don't! My site does not just talk about me, there are other people that are on this site, people and children who have been damaged by the internet! Think what you want, believe who you want, all I know is I have the FACTS, the PROOF and the TRUTH, and am being honest and professiional about how I have placed it on my site! Angela Oh lastly, me ebay I sell on I am not posting it for you all to destroy that for me too! _________________ Secure SSL Certified & Verified Online Store: http://shop.angelaledcke.com/ Join the Down-n-Dirty forum at: http://www.angelaledcke.com/
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sandersmm MemberMember is offlinePosts: 10
Posted: Mar 30th, 2007 at 11:42 am
Angela, Gee, Angela, I have no idea what you are rambling on and on about! Sounds like you have more personal problems than anyone realized, yet I somehow don't doubt that! You can put a twist and spin on being a victim of just about anything - can't you? Oh, and Angela - my name is MaryAnn. (A "professional" such as youself shouldn't make such a careless error when addressing someone.) MaryAnn
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Angela38 MemberMember is offlinePosts: 32
Posted: Mar 30th, 2007 at 12:00 pm
Maryann, Is that better? Goodness, the nit picking. This is what I mean, once a person makes some silly little name mistake the attacks just go wild! Talk about disorders, shoot it shows you all have a vendetta against me. Do you not see this?
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sandersmm MemberMember is offlinePosts: 10
Posted: Mar 30th, 2007 at 12:27 pm
No, Angela. That isn't better. Look at my name again. Do you see the "A" is a capital? I don't think it is "nit picking" for me to expect to be addressed by my actual name and not "Mary" and not one you've just made up for me. That
only shows that you have a lack of respect for those you address. Sort of goes along with your lack of respect for online manners of any sort, though.... As for the "woe is Angela" routine...... You've already worn that one out! MaryAnn
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Ravish30 MemberMember is offlinePosts: 222
Posted: Mar 30th, 2007 at 01:34 pm
Angela, I could care less what you have done to others...my issue with you is your hit/spam/run tactics that you do to ME and my Ryze Network! Months ago I asked you nicely in a PM to please stay off my Classy Chic Network...but yet, you made how many FAKE ID's and Names and come on there to spam your links, your story and crap. THAT is MY personal issue with you. If someone ASKED me to stay off their GROUP or FORUM that I was NOT wanted there....well dag gone it....I would stay off! I don't care what you do to OTHER Ryze Networks...just stay off of mine.
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Angela38 MemberMember is offlinePosts: 32
Posted: Mar 31st, 2007 at 07:01 pm
Mary Ann! What exactly is your bone with me? What have I done to you? You seem to have this anger and animosity towards me? Now you state that I have no respect to the people I address? What about your lack of respect towards someone You don't know? Now, if you want to lash out at me, please have a reason, but if it is only over how I have addressed you or spelled your name, that is pretty silly! Please let's all hear what your problem with me is! Shelly: I made it clear on the other forums, I am not going into your Ryze, don't want to, could care less what is going on in your Ryze. Actually, if I want to know what is going on in Ryze, I now have enough people in Ryze who forward me all that I need to know, and what is useful for me personally to have that regards me. Otherwise, your Ryze is Your Ryze and I am not interested in it. The message should be very clear, that I am staying out of your Classy Chic Ryze group! Ok? Tara: so be it, you dislike me, that is fine, but to lie about never once emailing me personally with your hate and threat emails is just more proof that I have to show the Contradictions to your story, and BS story. I have attempted to understand why you personally have an issue with Me, yet you have failed to make it clear. You have Never been a customer of mine, I have Never taken your money, nor am I interested in your money. So please inform me what your issue is with me! Enlighten me! Facts are I give more of my products away for free, than I charge for. The many of you in all these forums Think you know all about me, but the Facts are: You have no Idea, you only know what you have read, and what you think is the actual story and truth! In Facts, the BS site has got some truth to it, but there are Serious Wrongs, and contradictions to what they say, I have that proof, and Proof is better than the BS facts they think they have! BS was not in the court room, BS was not in my seat with what I was going through, and BS is not me, they have in fact done COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT on their entire site, and that goes to show they are falsley accusing me of copyright when they too have done copyright infringement! My Angela Ledcke site has enough to back up each and every issue BS has on their site, and I am most definetly not one bit afraid to show the proof, which will prove what the BS people have really done. I would Never wish this type of site on anyone, even the people that have made that site. You people have no idea what it has done to me, and how outrageous that site really is! YOU HAVE NO CLUE!
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If you took out the time to Read that Forum very carefully, you will see what happens to a person. How people treat each other, the hate, the accusations, I personally think that this openly shows that bustedscammers has a personal vendetta against Angela, and I can see that by reading this forum copy, and if bustedscammers can get away with such a horrific site, what are they showing their children, and other people. That is not professional, nor is it anything I would want my own child to read, as it clearly shows bullying.
6.) A Comment bustedscammers has on their site:
Sadly, and by her own words and actions, she only continues to convince others to regard her as someone with serious mental health issues. (This is a perfect example of Slander, I don’t think that a person with depression is deamed to have serious mental health issues)
7.) More of the busted scammers website posts:
Within one week she went from [unsuccessfully] attempting to sell trash and personal gossip on her "cyber crime prevention" site and posting antagonistic ads example for it to trying to appear as though the Indianapolis FBI and the Pentagon are working with her in her effort to catch her "cyber bullies."
( where does it say on this link in the busted scammers site, on that link when it pulls up, where does it show that Angela states she personally is working with the FBI? The Pentagon? Now I am really interested, I would like to see this. I did read somewhere, that Angela’s husband’s uncle use to work for the Pentagon for one of the Presidents, Reagan I think, but don’t quote me on that. It was a long while back.
8.)
This is a post from a Google Forum: Alt.drugs
This is a post obviously made by Angela herself:
.There is New Website on the net that is helping WARN people about Huge Internet Issues , People who are being Cyber Stalked, Cyber Bullied, and slandered! Go to: http://www.angelaledcke.com/ Join and Protect Yourself! JOIN OUR DOWN-N-DIRTY FORUM ~NO HOLD BAR ~ EXPRESS YOURSELF, GOSSIP, COMPLAIN, TONS OF TOPICS!
Doesn’t look like harassment to me, l see Angela trying to help others, after all, look what bustedscammers did to her, and her business.
Now here are some posts I have found on some of the people who left response posts to Angela and her posts: This post below is done by a person name AJ (aka John Johnson) he is one of the people who sent hateful posts in the google forum, now, read what kind of person he is, and why should we believe a Heroin and Coke addict, what did Angela do to him? Does he know her? Obviously not.
Newsgroups: alt.drugs.hard
From: aj...@comcast.net
Date: 31 Mar 2007 08:29:54 -0700
Local: Sat, Mar 31 2007 10:29 am
Subject: Re: Starting on Bupe
> Im thinking about finding a bupe doctor here in Clearwater. I work > out of town alot and getting on a methadone program just doesn't > fit my lifestyle lol. I leave for a job in Tallahasee for 2 months > soon and i wont be able to get my usual hook because I will be away > and I will surely run out during that time. I run a crew of 8 guys > and i cant afford to be going thru w/d during that time. Do most bupe > docs give you like a month script right of the bat or do you have to > see them weekly or something at first? > TIA
It really depends on the doctor. The first bupe doctor i saw made me come in daily for a week, then bi-weekly, then weekly, then twice a month, and finally monthly (although it took a good 4 months before we got to monthlys), as well as attend a once a week "support group" which he told me i had to attend because it was "the law". But the doctor i am seeing now (and have been for about a year) had me take the first dose in his office, come back the next day to receive a script, upped my dose gradually for a week, and then upon seeing him again he wrote me a month script and told me to return in a month, no groups, no other mandatory bullshit. After about 6 months of seeing him he writes me for two months at a time, its very convenient. If i were you i would try and find a doc like that, they are definitely out there.
Another post by aj ……@comcast.net also know as John Johnson
Im thinking about finding a bupe doctor here in Clearwater. I work > out of town alot and getting on a methadone program just doesn't > fit my lifestyle lol. I leave for a job in Tallahasee for 2 months > soon and i wont be able to get my usual hook because I will be away > and I will surely run out during that time. I run a crew of 8 guys > and i cant afford to be going thru w/d during that time. Do most bupe > docs give you like a month script right of the bat or do you have to > see them weekly or something at first? > TIA > Riot
I got 2 weeks at first and then monthly.
On Mar 30, 1:33 pm, a...@comcast.net wrote:
> > > > > The only time i indulge in crack or cocaine is when i have some kind > > > > > of downer around to nullify the nervous effects of the coke. Usually > > > > > it is some type of opiate (predominately heroin) but today i have come > > > > > into some xanax and am currently on about 3mg and feeling pretty good > > > > > and loose. I have also been taking some hits of crack here and there > > > > > (probably every 15-20 minutes or so) and feeling incredible. My > > > > > question is, are there any health dangers to mixing these two? I know > > > > > opiates and cocaine can be a little dangerous, but how about benzos > > > > > and cocaine? So far i seem to be having no adverse effects but i > > > > > figured itd be best to know what could go wrong. Thanks in advance!
> > > > I'm the same way as you when it comes to crack or coke.....I always > > > > like to have something to come down with. I have never taken xanax > > > > while on it but i always have at least a totem pole kicking around to > > > > take when I'm ready to be done. I have never had any bad experiences > > > > doing this. If you don't have any preexisting health problems I > > > > wouldn't worry about it.
> > > Xanax is certainly safe; best for ending it all and getting you to > > > sleep. The danger is including alcohol in the mix. Never do that.
Another person by the name of Mike Glenn posted in this google forum:
mglen1...@yahoo.com
Newsgroups: alt.drugs.hard
From: mglen1...@yahoo.com
Date: 24 Apr 2007 13:52:50 -0700
Local: Tues, Apr 24 2007 12:52 pm
Subject: Re: Don't let this happen to you, it sucks, being Stalked, Cyber Bullied, Threatened!
And on top of that, she is trying to get you to sign up and PAY to see > pictures of her, "secrets", and her forum. What a load of shit.
I agree! You can't create problems and then claim to be a victim of them - and this woman is a scammer! I have no pity for her. She deserves to be thrown to the wolves! It must suck being stupid!
(Now this looks like harassement to me, who is Mike Glen, why does he hide behind a fake name, Yes, I researched him well, and his email is mglenn1965@yahoo.com. I would love to see his comments on his dealings with Angela, what she did to him.
More busted scammer website claims, show us the proof, I am very interested in who these people are! Why protect them, when it is so easy for busted scammers to show all of Angela’s information, who are they protecting, and if they did get this information below, let the public see please.
From the busted scammers site:
“It was reported to bustedscammers from several shocked customers that at her moving sale in Bloomfield, Indiana, Mrs. Ledcke proudly exclaimed to her customers that she was writing a book about her online experiences and that she is working with Hilary Clinton and the FBI concerning her tales of woe”. This alone demonstrates someone living in state of delusion. ( and yet another Slanderous remark made by Julie Ryals of busted scammers)
(who are the customers, where is their actual content showing this was said to them?)
Okay, now on to this ebay thing :
There were other aliases from EBay where she bought thousands worth of items within a few weeks, and then sometime later (after receiving positive feedback for prompt payment) fraudulently filed with Paypal that they had been "unauthorized" purchases. Most of the sellers were stiffed! (Now explain to me if this really happened, can bustedscammers show us the actual transactions, the sellers who she stiffed? )
Another interesting accusation on Julies part, I would like to see where Julie Ryals got this information, the upset people, who Angela stiffed and so on.
Now below, they say these are website, emails what have you that Angela owned: Why hasn’t busted scammers given us those links to look at?
boafnetwork.com - CLOSED!
Theadpack Yahoo group - Busted for copyright infringementMombunch Yahoo group - Busted for copyright infringement
simplicityshop.biz - Suspended/CLOSED by SITE HOST!
shop/angelaledcke.com
unltdgiftshop.net
Dreamtreasures
Hermitandfriends.com- CLOSED by Site Host! (Angela did not even post that picture on her website, the host owner Renee Brown, who copied the photo is the one who posted this picture, it is her ip address and hosting company) if you look at the link http://www.bustedscammers.com/mvh_site.htm it was hosted by Renee Brown who was the only person capable of making any type of changes, Renee Brown closed that site, because angela did not like her hosting service, nor how Renee handled her business.)
(where are the pdf files on this, prove this was really done)
Now on to this Myspace PDF file that busted scammers has offered us, yet take another careful look when you go to the busted scammers site to see Angela’s quote of; “Who hasn’t” which is how to get to her myspace the PDF file that busted scammers copied it to.
We will only offer some of her OWN words, as her own admissions! A comment that Julie Ryals has on busted scammers site, now go to her site, Take a look for yourself, where does this pdf file show that angela admits to scamming? Or trying to steal or scam anyone, this page just shows valid proof that she could care less about what people think.
Sadly, and by her own words and actions, she only continues to convince others to regard her as someone with serious mental health issues. (This is a perfect example of Slander, I don’t think that a person with depression is deamed to have serious mental health issues)
7.) More of the busted scammers website posts:
Within one week she went from [unsuccessfully] attempting to sell trash and personal gossip on her "cyber crime prevention" site and posting antagonistic ads example for it to trying to appear as though the Indianapolis FBI and the Pentagon are working with her in her effort to catch her "cyber bullies."
( where does it say on this link in the busted scammers site, on that link when it pulls up, where does it show that Angela states she personally is working with the FBI? The Pentagon? Now I am really interested, I would like to see this. I did read somewhere, that Angela’s husband’s uncle use to work for the Pentagon for one of the Presidents, Reagan I think, but don’t quote me on that. It was a long while back.
8.)
This is a post from a Google Forum: Alt.drugs
This is a post obviously made by Angela herself:
.There is New Website on the net that is helping WARN people about Huge Internet Issues , People who are being Cyber Stalked, Cyber Bullied, and slandered! Go to: http://www.angelaledcke.com/ Join and Protect Yourself! JOIN OUR DOWN-N-DIRTY FORUM ~NO HOLD BAR ~ EXPRESS YOURSELF, GOSSIP, COMPLAIN, TONS OF TOPICS!
Doesn’t look like harassment to me, l see Angela trying to help others, after all, look what bustedscammers did to her, and her business.
Now here are some posts I have found on some of the people who left response posts to Angela and her posts: This post below is done by a person name AJ (aka John Johnson) he is one of the people who sent hateful posts in the google forum, now, read what kind of person he is, and why should we believe a Heroin and Coke addict, what did Angela do to him? Does he know her? Obviously not.
Newsgroups: alt.drugs.hard
From: aj...@comcast.net
Date: 31 Mar 2007 08:29:54 -0700
Local: Sat, Mar 31 2007 10:29 am
Subject: Re: Starting on Bupe
> Im thinking about finding a bupe doctor here in Clearwater. I work > out of town alot and getting on a methadone program just doesn't > fit my lifestyle lol. I leave for a job in Tallahasee for 2 months > soon and i wont be able to get my usual hook because I will be away > and I will surely run out during that time. I run a crew of 8 guys > and i cant afford to be going thru w/d during that time. Do most bupe > docs give you like a month script right of the bat or do you have to > see them weekly or something at first? > TIA
It really depends on the doctor. The first bupe doctor i saw made me come in daily for a week, then bi-weekly, then weekly, then twice a month, and finally monthly (although it took a good 4 months before we got to monthlys), as well as attend a once a week "support group" which he told me i had to attend because it was "the law". But the doctor i am seeing now (and have been for about a year) had me take the first dose in his office, come back the next day to receive a script, upped my dose gradually for a week, and then upon seeing him again he wrote me a month script and told me to return in a month, no groups, no other mandatory bullshit. After about 6 months of seeing him he writes me for two months at a time, its very convenient. If i were you i would try and find a doc like that, they are definitely out there.
Another post by aj ……@comcast.net also know as John Johnson
Im thinking about finding a bupe doctor here in Clearwater. I work > out of town alot and getting on a methadone program just doesn't > fit my lifestyle lol. I leave for a job in Tallahasee for 2 months > soon and i wont be able to get my usual hook because I will be away > and I will surely run out during that time. I run a crew of 8 guys > and i cant afford to be going thru w/d during that time. Do most bupe > docs give you like a month script right of the bat or do you have to > see them weekly or something at first? > TIA > Riot
I got 2 weeks at first and then monthly.
On Mar 30, 1:33 pm, a...@comcast.net wrote:
> > > > > The only time i indulge in crack or cocaine is when i have some kind > > > > > of downer around to nullify the nervous effects of the coke. Usually > > > > > it is some type of opiate (predominately heroin) but today i have come > > > > > into some xanax and am currently on about 3mg and feeling pretty good > > > > > and loose. I have also been taking some hits of crack here and there > > > > > (probably every 15-20 minutes or so) and feeling incredible. My > > > > > question is, are there any health dangers to mixing these two? I know > > > > > opiates and cocaine can be a little dangerous, but how about benzos > > > > > and cocaine? So far i seem to be having no adverse effects but i > > > > > figured itd be best to know what could go wrong. Thanks in advance!
> > > > I'm the same way as you when it comes to crack or coke.....I always > > > > like to have something to come down with. I have never taken xanax > > > > while on it but i always have at least a totem pole kicking around to > > > > take when I'm ready to be done. I have never had any bad experiences > > > > doing this. If you don't have any preexisting health problems I > > > > wouldn't worry about it.
> > > Xanax is certainly safe; best for ending it all and getting you to > > > sleep. The danger is including alcohol in the mix. Never do that.
Another person by the name of Mike Glenn posted in this google forum:
mglen1...@yahoo.com
Newsgroups: alt.drugs.hard
From: mglen1...@yahoo.com
Date: 24 Apr 2007 13:52:50 -0700
Local: Tues, Apr 24 2007 12:52 pm
Subject: Re: Don't let this happen to you, it sucks, being Stalked, Cyber Bullied, Threatened!
And on top of that, she is trying to get you to sign up and PAY to see > pictures of her, "secrets", and her forum. What a load of shit.
I agree! You can't create problems and then claim to be a victim of them - and this woman is a scammer! I have no pity for her. She deserves to be thrown to the wolves! It must suck being stupid!
(Now this looks like harassement to me, who is Mike Glen, why does he hide behind a fake name, Yes, I researched him well, and his email is mglenn1965@yahoo.com. I would love to see his comments on his dealings with Angela, what she did to him.
More busted scammer website claims, show us the proof, I am very interested in who these people are! Why protect them, when it is so easy for busted scammers to show all of Angela’s information, who are they protecting, and if they did get this information below, let the public see please.
From the busted scammers site:
“It was reported to bustedscammers from several shocked customers that at her moving sale in Bloomfield, Indiana, Mrs. Ledcke proudly exclaimed to her customers that she was writing a book about her online experiences and that she is working with Hilary Clinton and the FBI concerning her tales of woe”. This alone demonstrates someone living in state of delusion. ( and yet another Slanderous remark made by Julie Ryals of busted scammers)
(who are the customers, where is their actual content showing this was said to them?)
Okay, now on to this ebay thing :
There were other aliases from EBay where she bought thousands worth of items within a few weeks, and then sometime later (after receiving positive feedback for prompt payment) fraudulently filed with Paypal that they had been "unauthorized" purchases. Most of the sellers were stiffed! (Now explain to me if this really happened, can bustedscammers show us the actual transactions, the sellers who she stiffed? )
Another interesting accusation on Julies part, I would like to see where Julie Ryals got this information, the upset people, who Angela stiffed and so on.
Now below, they say these are website, emails what have you that Angela owned: Why hasn’t busted scammers given us those links to look at?
boafnetwork.com - CLOSED!
Theadpack Yahoo group - Busted for copyright infringementMombunch Yahoo group - Busted for copyright infringement
simplicityshop.biz - Suspended/CLOSED by SITE HOST!
shop/angelaledcke.com
unltdgiftshop.net
Dreamtreasures
Hermitandfriends.com- CLOSED by Site Host! (Angela did not even post that picture on her website, the host owner Renee Brown, who copied the photo is the one who posted this picture, it is her ip address and hosting company) if you look at the link http://www.bustedscammers.com/mvh_site.htm it was hosted by Renee Brown who was the only person capable of making any type of changes, Renee Brown closed that site, because angela did not like her hosting service, nor how Renee handled her business.)
(where are the pdf files on this, prove this was really done)
Now on to this Myspace PDF file that busted scammers has offered us, yet take another careful look when you go to the busted scammers site to see Angela’s quote of; “Who hasn’t” which is how to get to her myspace the PDF file that busted scammers copied it to.
We will only offer some of her OWN words, as her own admissions! A comment that Julie Ryals has on busted scammers site, now go to her site, Take a look for yourself, where does this pdf file show that angela admits to scamming? Or trying to steal or scam anyone, this page just shows valid proof that she could care less about what people think.
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I forsee there to be some interesting comments on this page, I am looking forward to seeing what comes. If people continue to discuss this controversy, it may allow the public to understand why bustedscammers has their site, and why Angela Ledcke is trying to defend specific issues that the bustedscammers site has on it, in turn she may have some sort of explanation to show what is true, or what she has done to rectify some of the problems she has caused upon herself. I am intrigued over both ordeals and would like to see the outcome of your article.
In my opinion, this Ledcke woman is only trying to escape her own actions by posting as third party and trying to challenge a site that seems to have clear documentation and proof of her online behavior. What is written in the above post virtually makes no sense at all and has been written by someone that doesn't seem to even understand that their claim of having proof means nothing without substantiation. Questioning what has clearly been provided in the scammers site seems like a last-ditch effort to convince herself and others that she is somehow not at fault for her weird behavior. This researcher/third party (AKA Angela Ledcke, herself) seems to also be desperate to prove that she is happily married and somehow that is also pretty strange. Who has a site that as a stage for saying ‘Look at me…. I’m happily married and normal, and not the crazy person I’ve proven to be online over the past several years.’ As for that garbage she copied and posted from some Newsgroup alt.drugs.hard forum, she put her trash out there on a “Newsgroups: alt.drugs.hard” forum…… so what did she expect to get in return? This woman makes no sense at all! I have to agree that she appears to need psychological help.
Oh dear God Angela, don't you get it yet? NO ONE cares about what you write, or what you have to say about anyone. IT'S all lies, and distorted thinking on your part because YOU DID in fact get busted for scamming other's.Now be a good little girl and take your meds you sooooo badly need. Oh and get some help too, and fast!!!
The only proof I’ve seen in the article this person has posted is that she has no proof. I also noticed that she doesn’t even know what year it is and can’t figure out that last November (2006) was only one year ago and not two years ago. She has misinterpreted what she has copied from the bustedscammers.com site because she apparently can’t even decipher what she is reading. The entire post is madness and I don’t have much doubt that the poster is A. Ledcke and that she is doing what the scammer’s site has said is her pattern and because of that, she only proof she provides is that THEY are right and that she is exactly as they say. Hopefully she won’t dig her hole any deeper and will stop the nonsense. She is making a mockery of herself AND of Zimbio! The article is totally inappropriate.
Angela Ledcke has given no proof – via herself, the article on this site, or through her aliases other than she seems to have seriously problems.
I haven't found anything on the bustedscammers site that is remotely questionable as not being valid. When credibility is measured, if the majority of content is backed up by legitimate and substantial proof as the bustedscammers site has done (and not just hearsay claims and ramblings as ExposeBS has done), every single statement isn’t required to have a link to validate it. Validation can be assumed because credibility has been established. As an example, if media outlet has a proven record of being reliable and they report on a bank robbery – they don’t have to show pictures of the robbery in order for the story to be presented. I don’t have to see the robbery happen to believe the bank was robbed. On the other hand, if a media outlet known to be dishonest, scam, and not in the least reputable reports on a bank robbery….. I’m going to want to see some real proof because their word and/or claims alone would hold no validity.
Regardless, attempting to re-present history as an attempt to establish some sort of credibility is as ludicrous as Angela Ledcke has proven herself to be. According to her own story she apparently decided that she wanted to start an identity online. She saw sites and groups that had taken years of hard work to establish and she claimed not to have seen the harm in taking that hard work as her own. On one site she stole an image that was associated with a reputable candle company and popped it on her own site as her logo – claiming it as hers. After being asked to remove it, Ms. Ledcke made excuses and took the stance that it was HERS. (Problem: The photo was a family photo belonging to the owner from the other candle company.) At some point Ms. Ledcke joined a Yahoo Work at Home Mother’s group – operated by Julie Ryals. This group had been established and running for several years and thousands of hours of work from many had been poured into the group (which contained over 4,000 members) and was devoted to helping Work at Home Mothers in their endeavors of starting and running home-based businesses. It must’ve been quite impressive to Ms. Ledcke because she copied each page from Julie Ryal’s site and pasted them into a site of her own – changing the name and claiming herself as the founder. This was just the beginning of Ms. Ledcke’s online antics and soon she was getting herself into many similar situations, including EBay and Bidville scams. The bustedscammers.com site was established so that members of the WAHM community could protect themselves, as Ms. Ledcke used many aliases and fake identities.
Many of us can distinctly remember when Ms. Ledcke jumped into the online arena and began her games. She has, without a doubt, proven her own lack of character throughout many online communities, auction sites, and sites such as this one. On the other hand, many of us can vouch for the fact that Julie Ryals has proven herself to be nothing but hardworking, credible, reliable, competent, and there for those who have needed her help in establishing themselves online - the HONEST way. Angela Ledcke’s continued attempts to discredit Julie Ryals are nothing more than spiteful retaliation coming from a contemptuous person.
Ms. Ledcke apparently lacks the understanding that she can’t steal from someone and then cry that SHE is the victim of that person. Libeling those SHE has wronged seems to be her signature and it appears to be becoming a distinguishable and trait.
The article seems a sad portrayal of a very disturbed individual.
I haven't found anything on the bustedscammers site that is remotely questionable as not being valid. When credibility is measured, if the majority of content is backed up by legitimate and substantial proof as the bustedscammers site has done (and not just hearsay claims and ramblings as ExposeBS has done), every single statement isn’t required to have a link to validate it. Validation can be assumed because credibility has been established. As an example, if media outlet has a proven record of being reliable and they report on a bank robbery – they don’t have to show pictures of the robbery in order for the story to be presented. I don’t have to see the robbery happen to believe the bank was robbed. On the other hand, if a media outlet known to be dishonest, scam, and not in the least reputable reports on a bank robbery….. I’m going to want to see some real proof because their word and/or claims alone would hold no validity.
Regardless, attempting to re-present history as an attempt to establish some sort of credibility is as ludicrous as Angela Ledcke has proven herself to be. According to her own story she apparently decided that she wanted to start an identity online. She saw sites and groups that had taken years of hard work to establish and she claimed not to have seen the harm in taking that hard work as her own. On one site she stole an image that was associated with a reputable candle company and popped it on her own site as her logo – claiming it as hers. After being asked to remove it, Ms. Ledcke made excuses and took the stance that it was HERS. (Problem: The photo was a family photo belonging to the owner from the other candle company.) At some point Ms. Ledcke joined a Yahoo Work at Home Mother’s group – operated by Julie Ryals. This group had been established and running for several years and thousands of hours of work from many had been poured into the group (which contained over 4,000 members) and was devoted to helping Work at Home Mothers in their endeavors of starting and running home-based businesses. It must’ve been quite impressive to Ms. Ledcke because she copied each page from Julie Ryal’s site and pasted them into a site of her own – changing the name and claiming herself as the founder. This was just the beginning of Ms. Ledcke’s online antics and soon she was getting herself into many similar situations, including EBay and Bidville scams. The bustedscammers.com site was established so that members of the WAHM community could protect themselves, as Ms. Ledcke used many aliases and fake identities.
Many of us can distinctly remember when Ms. Ledcke jumped into the online arena and began her games. She has, without a doubt, proven her own lack of character throughout many online communities, auction sites, and sites such as this one. On the other hand, many of us can vouch for the fact that Julie Ryals has proven herself to be nothing but hardworking, credible, reliable, competent, and there for those who have needed her help in establishing themselves online - the HONEST way. Angela Ledcke’s continued attempts to discredit Julie Ryals are nothing more than spiteful retaliation coming from a contemptuous person.
Ms. Ledcke apparently lacks the understanding that she can’t steal from someone and then cry that SHE is the victim of that person. Libeling those SHE has wronged seems to be her signature and it appears to be becoming a distinguishable and trait.
The article seems a sad portrayal of a very disturbed individual.
In retrospect to all the above comments, I am having a hard time believing all of this. Haven't any of you seen the www.exposebustedscammer.com website, the person behind that website makes some very interesting facts.
I have to agree with Carolyn_P_W! That site does show some serious evidence.
Thank you for posting the www.exposebustedscammer.com website, maybe now everyone will see what Julie Ryals has been hiding all along. I found this blog today, think you all might find it very interesting: http://slayrbooyah.wordpress.com this has some serious information about Julie Ryals in it. It's a must read!
So, you’re claiming in that blog, Angela, that even though you’ve admitted right and left to your scams and bad behavior online, and even though you have aired your own dirty laundry and provided your own information regarding your problems, (via yourself and through your alias researchers) that NOW all your problems are due to other people having a vendetta against you providing that info and that your PROOF is that they were the only ones who would know about your father being in prison? Have you thought about the fact that someone can get that info by putting YOUR name in a Google search? See --> Search results
Also, you posted as a “researcher” here and there and as that alias you said you’d dug up all sorts of information on public records. Now you try to say that only someone with a vendetta against you would have that information? That doesn’t really make any sense. Again, the PROOF you claim to have is that an ex’s current wife lives in Florida and so does Julie Ryals? What's the motive? Again, according to Google, the population in Florida is about 20 MILLION people. I really don’t think that’s proof of anything. Coincidence? Most likely.
Also posted is a forum from 2006. In March of 2007, however, those same prople who had once defended you posted again, comparing your saga to a soap opera: http://www.bizymoms.com/discus/messages/16615/16931.html
Sounds like you are filled with vengeance, Angela, and retaliating by trying to pull in other people to trash as your defense only makes you look worse. You can create as many aliases as you please to defend yourself and sanction your own behavior, but anyone with any common sense can see right through all of that.
Wow Angela, you have been busy.. dont' you get confused creating all these identities, websites, blogs.
Two words for you:
Go away
Two words for you:
Go away
Well, Angela Ledcke has proven yet again that she has lost touch with reality and is on another looney-cycle! She actually thinks that what is on that new “expose” site of hers has an ounce of validity and is somehow NOT going to be interpreted as simply the ramblings of an noticeably disturbed woman – which it obviously is! Not only does it make no sense, but also her continued claims of “proof” are absurd because – in reality - there ARE none. The site is just Angela Ledcke again ranting and raving about people that she wants to somehow drag in and blame for her own well-earned bad reputation online. The really sad part is that with only a moment’s worth of browsing Angela Ledcke’s little “expose” site, any sane person can come to that conclusion, but Ledcke seems to think that she can sway and convince that she is anything but crazy with her nonsense and empty, libelous claims – and that her simply saying, “this is valid proof” actually makes it proof. It doesn’t, and she has supplied NONE – ZERO – and yet she can’t even recognize that! The woman (AND all her aliases and other personalities) is a constant embarrassment to herself! She deserves for someone to file a VALID libel suit against HER because of that site! That would be great!
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