Home Energy Savings

Home Energy Savings

A blog designed as an open forum, discussing any and all things that can improve your personal cash flow by spending less on energy and home issues. The content comes from personal knowledge, experts in the field and the written word... [more]

A blog designed as an open forum, discussing any and all things that can improve your personal cash flow by spending less on energy and home issues. The content comes from personal knowledge, experts in the field and the written word. Please keep in mind that ALL responses are opinions - and while we may feel that they are correct - it is up to you, the reader, to decide for yourself.

Please feel free to ask The House-Zen Guy your questions. He may not have the answers, but he has a wealth of industry related contacts that he can reach.

Tankless Water Heater - Part 6 - The Decision?

In Part 5 we revealed the two quotes received from two separate companies to install the same Rinnai natural gas tankless water heater.

I won’t repeat all of the details from the two offers here (use the link to Part 5 above to see the comparative details), but to me there was clearly one offer which was less price and had better warranty.

This is new technology to me, even though tankless water heaters are much more the norm in Western Europe and else where. Hot water tanks are more of a North American phenomenon.

The Canadian ecoENERGY Residential Retrofit program currently provides (Federal and Provincial grants combined) for a $500 grant (increased from $400 January 1, 2008) for a home owner participating in the program who installs a tankless water heater with an efficiency rating of 0.8 or higher (for which the Rinnai qualifies).

Our decision: Neither. Let me explain.

The aforementioned grant is available for our household until May of 2009. Why? Well, as part of the ecoENERGY Residential Retrofit program you have to have two energy efficiency assessments (i.e. energy audits); the first ‘D’ energy audit performed by accredited firms before you undertake any renovations and the second ‘E’ energy audit conducted within 18 months to determine which recommendations from the ‘D’ energy audit report were actually undertaken and to what extent. [for more information on the ecoENERGY Residential Retrofit grant program, simply select the ecoENERGY Retrofit Grant link in our blog roll).

We had the ‘D’ energy efficiency assessment conducted in November 2007, so that would make May 2009 (if my math is right) the 18th month thereafter. Make sense?

So, we are in no rush to undertake energy efficiency renovations for which there are applicable government grants; unless the Canadian Federal abruptly changes the rules of the program retroactively. They wouldn’t do that, would they? :-)  Surely, I digress. On this one I’ll take that risk.

Now, our main concern are two fold. First, special venting is needed not just for the Rinnai model but any natural gas tankless water heater. Both firms indicated that they could not install the Rinnai at the location of our current hot water tank, which is conveniently located in the center of all of the bathrooms, kitchen and laundry room areas of our home.

Proposed Tankless Rinnai Location

So, both said that it would need to be installed against the outside wall (see above picture) where the current natural gas enters our home, about 30-ish feet away. Anything that needs such special venting causes me a concern, especially when we have our current hot water tank vented 30-ish feet away from an outside wall with no issues.

Second, installing the Rinnai hot water tank 30 feet or so away from most of the sinks, bath tubs, showers and dish washer (and clothes washer, although we do most of our laundry using cold water) will result in a waste of a lot of water each time someone turns on the hot water tap. Thirty feet of water is a lot of water for each shower, bath, etc.

While arguably not necessarily a non-renewable resource such as oil or natural gas or uranium, environmentally water remains a precious resource. And, the more water we waste in our home the higher our water bill costs will increase.

Yes, we missed out on the $400 or so difference in the offer from the lower priced firm. They had a $500 sale on which has now ended (their original cost was $100 more than the first firm, hence only a $400 or so lower net price). That’s OK. I’d rather take my time and focus more on this when I have the time (right now I am more focused on spring types of outside activities such as ‘renovating’ our front garden, replacing the current undersized gutters, exterior hidden screens for our front and rear door, as well as fixing our darn en suite shower leak.

The last thing I need is to install a new technology without sufficient research and have the family members complain that the hot water takes too long before they can start their shower.

We will come back to tankless water heaters in the fall. Who knows, we may just keep our current hot water tank. Or, perhaps we will use a different technology altogether. Or, perhaps we will go back to the Rinnai and just absorb the wasted water.  :-) Remember, I am after both reduction in the costs of ‘running’ our home as well as energy efficiency and environmental appropriateness combined.

Sponsors
Comments
Be the first to leave a comment!
Add a Comment:
Already a member? Log In
Sponsors
About the Author

3 Kudos
Top Home Articles
5 Tips For Creating a Kitchen That Flows
Learn how to create an efficient kitchen.
Backyard Landscaping Ideas Using Stone
Looks great and you don't have to mow it!
The Lucky Bamboo Is A Perfect Desktop Plant
Despite the name, Lucky Bamboo is not really bamboo at all.
More From Zimbio
Copyright © 2008 - Zimbio, Inc. Some rights reserved.